‘Independence’ for Wales within the Eurpean Union

We are looking for light at the end of the Brexit tunnel. Here it is!

Before the UK negotiates its departure from the EU, Scotland will vote in a referendum to leave the United Kingdom and stay in the European Union.

This will allow us in Wales to claim that our EU referendum took place on a false prospectus. We were offered a United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as an alternative to membership of the European Union. Scotland leaving the UK changes the offer.

On this basis the Welsh Government should demand a new referendum in Wales in which we are asked to choose between a union with England or a separate Wales within the European Union.

An ‘independent’ Wales within the European Union would be uniquely placed to have access to markets in an otherwise isolated England and in the EU. In this context Wales would build on its current manufacturing base to be Northern Europe’s key location for steel, the automotive and aeronautic industries, new energy and bio-medical technologies. Former UK university research groups will relocate to Wales to maintain European networks. Key financial services will move from London to Cardiff to maintain a bridgehead into Europe.

Disaffected Welsh voters who have recently voted to leave the EU in a desperate desire for change would instead be persuaded to constitutionally detach themselves from England if the vision of a new future was clearly articulated.

Is this fantasy? Sceptics will point to the large gap between tax revenues and public expenditure in Wales, a gap that will widen so long as our economy is subservient to the needs of London as a beleaguered base for finance capital. If we have the vision to grow our economy through innovation, investment in skills, a march of the makers, a rich mix of small and large enterprises replicating the ownership and banking structures of Germany and Scandinavia, a more equal resource distribution, empowered and purposeful trades unions; our public finances will look after themselves. People of Wales, united with Europe, providing a bridge into England, we have nothing to lose but our chains.





  1. Sorry but your basic premise is wrong! This is indeed based on sheer fantasy! I am a supporter of Yes Cymru and have a fervent desire to see Wales achieve independence in my lifetime but not at the expense of democracy. A democratic decision has been taken by the electorate of the UK and regional analysis show majority support for that decision in Wales. In our democratic society we cannot simply set aside the desire of the electorate, nor should we shamefully play games with the democratic process to achieve out goals

  2. The question has never been put to the welsh people. They have never had the positives put to them. Any poll ever taken is void in my opinion until they do get the arguments put to them. Of the people who have researched and thought about it and are not bitter unionists seem to like the idea but think wales couldn’t do it.
    I dont think there a strong attachment to the union as some people would have you believe. Most welsh people see themselves as welsh first and if they were convinced they would be better off they would go for independence in a heart beat. That is the problem though. How do you convince them when wales is dominated by unionists postilions and media?
    You see the bbc especial y is very very bias. The poll they keep going on about that claimed on 3% support independence was a joke tbh. Independence was one of 7 choices and they asked only 1000 people. How on earth can that be representative of welsh opinion? It cant but they still use it. They also ignore other polls by the likes of you gov that says up to 28.9% want independence. But like i said, until the welsh start having the debates the polls are pointless. See links bellow about some polls the bbc wont tell you about.

  3. If Wales is to become independent, tge basis of it’s deposit creation needs to ve sovereign, as in without debt, to aid the people instead of the private bankers creating unlimited deposits as debt.

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